Well I managed to get Thornton's Top 10 Oldest on last night and decided to split it into 'Buildings' and 'Houses'. Thats the good news, the bad news is my local knowledge is officially pants as I could only think of 2 places and I used one of those more than once! I still have to investigate whether the cottages at Nook are still standing but its difficult to have a proper look without looking like I'm casing the joint. So please keep your eyes open when wandering around .. answers on a postcard.
I've added details on Fleetwood Road Methodist Church today and have been tinkering with some of the pictures. I've been back 3 times to the railway now at different times of day and can't seem to get a picture that isn't either: a) in the shade or b) containing blokes in orange jackets. When the weather gets warmer I will camp out in the Bay Horse beer garden waiting my moment .. all in the interest of the site of course.
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Where's Nook?
ReplyDeleteIncidentally, there's a cottage/shop on Rossall Road in Cleveleys (near the traffic lights...it might be the place that sells tyres...it's one of those buildings along that streth anyhow) that, if memory serves, dates back to seventeen hundred and odd. Worth checking out. There's a date stone above the door I seem to recall.
And there's another old cottage at the end of Crabtree Road in Thornton...again, can't remember how old it is now, or what it's called, but it's definitely not modern.
Hi Brian
ReplyDeleteThe cottage at the end of Crabtree is Poolfoot Cottage which is one I have as it is on the dog walking route. Am not including the Rossall Road one as that is enemy territory !!
Nook cottages are on Meadows Ave on the right just after you turn in from Victoria Rd. I only spotted them the other day as I thought they had been pulled down.
"The cottage at the end of Crabtree is Poolfoot Cottage..."
ReplyDeleteAh...thought it might have been, but I wasn't sure.
"Am not including the Rossall Road one as that is enemy territory !!"
The dreaded Ritherham!
Don't forget Raikes Farm on Raikes Road. 1790 that one, I think.
what about the old farm on the corner of woodlands ave {mill road} i have no idea on dates but i know it has been discussed over on Brians site.
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ReplyDeleteThanks Mike
ReplyDeleteIs that the one that is almost opposite the Chinese ? I used to know the guy who lived there so if it is I will keep an eye out for him.
Am now off to pillage Brians site :-)
Thats the one , also what about the gardeners arms pub opened 1900.
ReplyDeleteTHE Old barn (The old Stables from Lodge Farm.) at Hornbys corner skippool Rd has a Key Stone dating back to the 1700s,Now covered by a Clock.
ReplyDeleteI used to drive a Tractor for Cliff Morris Agriculture Contractor at the farm at the corner of Woodlands& Rosendale, kept cows in what is now Hatfield Close,(I wonder if it was called Hatfield because Cliff was never seen without
his battered trilby
Hi Anonymous .. would you mind my posting that in the memories section on the site? You would never know that the date stone was there now at all. I will also add the Old Barn to my Top 10 Oldest properties.
ReplyDeleteHi, history hunter, Be MY Guest, it used to be the stables to Lodge Farm,I was born in what used to be the farm house,App Thornton was at one time at the junction of Raikes RD,Woodhouse,and Skippool Rd, Incidentally the house next to Thornton Hall Farm (Ilecs House Was owned by TB Silcock His Sister lived there,
ReplyDeletelater became the residence of the Grimes Family(Owners of the Gazette,) Now owned By Judge Henriques.
Anonymous...by the barn with the clock on it, would you be refering to the old blacksmith's on the corner of School Road opposite Raikes Road?
ReplyDeleteWas used for a short time by a Farier in the 80s
ReplyDeletethe 3 horse stalls were there in the 1930s,
At present has been turned into a holiday home, prior to that was used by Tommy Sewell an old friend of mine He lived next door to my Grans,
he had geese, kept corn, feed, ect; in the old stable.In the 1940s it was used by Alf Braid(another Braid that name keeps cropping up)who had a poultry farm at the rear when i was 11 or 12yrs old i used to collect eggs and let the hens out of app;20 cabins before i went to school,then feed, grit, and waterin the evening before locking them up for night, 7 days a week for the princely sum of 5 shillings which was not a bad rate in those days.
Talk about the good old days.
in between helping with the harvest
No pay, part of the war effort.
That'd be the one...my sister lives at Bretherton Cottages on the corner of Raikes Road just opposite.
ReplyDeleteTHe romour was that the farrier was not fully Qualified, and thats why he left,
ReplyDeletere Bretherton they were all owned by TB Silcock
Remember the one of the Poole Families lived in the one next to raikes farm the farmer was Henry Armitage his Brother Ernie Farmed just off School Rd had a pedigree heard of Jersey cows was related to his wife through m mothers side of the family I think everyone was related in some way or the other on the farming comunity in those days.very close knit comunity, if you sneezed ion Poulton your mother had the Goose grease and brown paper out when you got home.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteApparently the same is still true today in Pilling. Somebody told me once that if you kick one of them the whole village feels it. That's not my observation, I should add...the good folk of Pilling have always been very pleasant with me, despite the fact that it's been said they don't have family trees over that way, just stumps.
there was an old say around here BORN ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE BLANKET,before P.C crept in,i remember asking my Gran what it meant and got a clout on the earhole for my pains,
ReplyDeleteHappy Days Eh,Be seen and not heard.
Hi Having caused confussion on another site posting under Anonymous and AN old Un to prevent any further confusion in future I,ll post under my Google name james.scott.put the mess up down to my senility.
ReplyDeleteNo1 & 2 Silcocks cottages on Skippool Rd could Qualify Like Hills Cottages at Hornbys Corner both were originaly built of cobblestones 1&2 Silcocks was originaly a farm house with an attached shippon,was owned by my wife from app; 1954 when bought of T B Silcock until 1979 during that time a brick outer walled was built around the propert,.athough the original cobbled walls are still inside, until app 1979.
ReplyDeleteposiblly the oldest farm house would have been Criers Pig farm on Wood house Rd, now demolished
and a bungalow built in its place, by Bill Crier Sadly no longer with us,also the old white cottages at the bottom of Lambs Hill oposite what was ST Johns Mission Hut tin roof and all.
well thats progress are times any better though?
Thanks for the information James
ReplyDeleteNow as technically No. 1&2 Silcocks cottages are not as built and are now made of modernish bricks, I don't think they can go on the list but I will definately look at Hills Cottages on Hornby's corner.
Thanks again for the information.
just been informed by by one of my daughters that Lennie Bennet lived on Homefields Rd Cleveleys,(Thought I'd get it in before she did)
ReplyDeleteStanah Hill farm at the top of Stanah rd could qualify,cobble stone walls ect;owner a relative of mine carnt give a date; the only info; is that the deeds have f for s's ect,she thinks that Tommy Hodkinson's at the Raikes rd,(Hily laid end)could be the oldest remaining Farm.
ReplyDeleteTheres also Rose Cottage opposite the public footpath on Rakes Rd,
Hi James
ReplyDeleteI actually drove past Stanah Hill Farm yesterday and clocked the cobble stone buildings. I will put it on the list with a '?' for date.
I always wanted to live at Rose cottage from being little and even used to push notes through the door incase they ever wanted to sell. Unfortunately it was pulled down quite a few years ago now and a large new property built on the site which they have inappropriately also called Rose Cottage. It was one of those places that looked just like it's name if you know what I mean. Shame.
Hi not been down that way for a while, did'nt know it had been pulled down,It belonged to Mr &Mrs kirby who during WW2 took in 2 evacuees Bruce and Elizabeth, knew them both.I think their parents were killed in the Blitz,Bruce died & the cottage was left to Elizabeth, the story is that A local Builder and a farmer wanted to build on Lambs Hill and wanted an alternative entrance,
ReplyDeleteso he offered Elizabeth a Blank Cheque Plus a new house to sell it to him (Alledgedly)
Plannig consent was not applied for when it became obvious that there was no chance, Posibly thats why there are Car Boot Sales on Lambs Hiil (The Illawalla syndrome,) make it an eyesore then you'll get planning consent,lesser of two evils.
Thanks James .. I have nicked that for the memory section (posted anonymously), hope you don't mind.
ReplyDeleteYour welcome. A further snipit of info; Prior to the Kirby's,Rose Cottage was a duck farm The now owner of Stanah Hill Farm (My 2nd or is it 3rd cousin) tells me her father had a duck farm there cica 1220s.
ReplyDeleteif they ever do a DND check round here we'll all be in the "Frame"
RE previous comment Should read 1920s,not 1220s i'm not that old!!
ReplyDeleteGosh .. I thought you had a good memory !!
ReplyDeleteI did however work for 12 months in the Booking Office at the old Railway Station opposite the Royal Oak at the bottom of the Breck.
ReplyDeleteI'm not going Ga-Ga this is quite true.
I currently live at 1 Silcocks Cottages and have the original deeds. The original cottage was just No 1 and dates back about 250 years. Many alterations have been made over the years and as far as I can tell there are no cobble walls left(although some of the lines/angles of the original partslook like they must have followed them) The doors upstairs are all low (I'm 5'11" and have to lower my head to go through them)
ReplyDeleteNo 2 was added towards the end of the 19th century. If you look at the rooflines then you can see the much lower ridge height of No 1 compared to No 2/3/4/5/6.
The cottages were split between the Silcocks children as a result of a will and were then sold to other owners on an adhoc basis.
Hi John
ReplyDeleteThanks for that. I didn't add them on the top 10 oldest as they were not original but if it's just the cobblestone walls which have gone and the rest is there .. on they go !